撒切尔夫人英国国会辩论经典片段

撒切尔夫人英国国会辩论经典片段（双语文本）英国前首相撒切尔夫人国会辩论现场，在议会辩论中，撒切尔夫人猛烈抨击工党的新税制，认为新税制不单是大步奔向社英国前首相撒切尔夫人国会辩论现场，在议会辩论中，撒切尔夫人猛烈抨击工党的新税制，认为新税制不单是大步奔向社会主义，更是通往共产主义之路，从而奠定了她强而有力的议会辩手的名声。

铁娘子最经典的"No,No,No!"把工党杀得体无完肤。

面对质疑和不满，撒切尔夫人强有力的应对，不失夫人本色，也不忘适度“发飙”。

On economic and monetary union, I stressed that we would be ready to move beyond the present position to the creation of a European monetary fund and a common community currency which we have called a hard ECU. But we would not be prepared to agree to set a date for starting the next stage of economic and monetary union before there is any agreement on what that stage should comprise. And I again emphasised that we would not be prepared to have a single currency imposed upon us, nor to surrender the use of the pound sterling as our currency.关于经济和货币联盟，我强调过我们需要做好准备，跨越目前的处境，来建立一个欧洲货币基金和共同的通用货币，也就是我们所说的欧洲货币单位。

但在开始为下一阶段的经济和货币联盟登上舞台做好准备之前，我们并不会为这个协议的实现设定一个日期。

我再次强调，我们不愿被逼使用统一货币，也不会屈服于把英镑作为我们的使用货币的做法。

It is our purpose to retain the power and influence of this House, and not to denude it of many of the powers. I wonder what the right honourable gentleman's policy is, in view of some of the things he said. Would he have agreed to a commitment to extend the Community's powers to other supplementary sectors of economic integrations without having any definition of what they are? Would he? Because you would've thought he would from what he said. One of them was that the Commission wants to extend its powers and competence into the area of health. We said no. We weren't going to agree to those since on what he says, he sounded as if he would, for the sake of agreeing, for the sake of being little sir echo, and saying, "Me too."我们的目的就是保留政府的权利以及影响，而不是剥夺他们的权利。

鉴于刚刚你所说的事情，这位正直尊贵的绅士，我想知道你的政策是什么？在没有任何明确定义的情况下，他会同意扩大联盟的权力来补充其他行业没有的经济融合吗？他会吗？你们会认为他会说到做到。

其中之一是，欧盟委员会希望将权力和能力扩展至医疗健康领域。

我们不赞成，我们并不打算同意他所说的一切，他听起来似乎是会这样做，仅仅是为了一种妥协而已，或者是一种绅士的态度，所以他会说“我也会。

”Would the he have agreed to extending qualified majority of voting within the Council, to delegating implementing powers to the Commission, to a common security policy, all without any attempt to define or limit them? The answer is yes. He hasn't got a clue about the definition of some of the things he is saying, let alone securing a definition of others. 在没有任何限制和定义的情况下，他会同意理事会扩大合格的多数投票来将权力委托给委员会或制定一个常见的安全政策，吗？答案是肯定的。

他还搞不清楚的他所定义的一些事情，更别提关于其他的定义了。

Yes, the Commission does want to increase its powers. Yes, it is a non-elected body and I do not want the Commission to increase its powers against its House. So of course we are differing. Of course the chairman or the president of the Commission, Mr. Delors, said at apress conference the other day that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the Community, he wanted the Commission to be the executive and he wanted the Council of Ministers to be the Senate. No. No. No.的确，委员会并不想要增加它的权利。

是的，这是一个非选举产生的主体，我并不希望委员会增加权利来对抗政府。

所以我们当然在改变。

Delors先生作为委员会的主席或总统，在新闻发布会上说有一天他希望欧洲议会是一个民主机构，他希望委员会执行力能更强，他希望内阁会议由参议院指出，但这些都没能实现。

Or, or perhaps the Labour Party would give all those things up easily. Perhaps they would agree to a single currency to total abolition of the pound sterling. Perhaps being totally incompetent with monetary matters, they'd be only too delighted to hand over the full responsibility as they did to the IMF, to a central bank. The fact is, they have no competence on money, no competence on the economy, so, yes, the right honourable gentleman would be glad to hand it all over. And what is the point in trying to get elected to Parliament only to hand over your sterling and to hand over the powers of this House to Europe?也许工党会将所有这些事情变得很容易。

也许他们会同意用一个单一货币来废除英镑。

也许这完全算不上是货币问题，他们会非常高兴地将所有责任转交给中央银行。

事实是，他们在货币政策上无所作为，在经济发展上同样一事无成，所以这位正直尊贵的绅士很愿意完全交出责任。

那么你们在议会中获选，仅仅是为了将手中的金钱和权利移交给欧洲政府吗？Norman Tebbit：My right honourable friend not agree that the mark of a single currency is that all other currencies must be extinguished. And not nearly extinguished, but that the capacity of other institutions to issue currency has to be extinguished. And that in the case of the United Kingdom, would involve this parliament binding its successors in a way which we have hitherto regarded as unconstitutional.Norman Tebbit: 我亲爱的朋友并不认为单一货币是其他货币必须消失的标志。

或者并不是消失，而是其他部门对金钱的控制力应该消除。

在英国的情况来说，应该让议会将其继承者和我们认为的非宪法行为结合起来。

This government has no intention of abolishing the pound sterling. If the hard ECU evolved into much much greater use, that would be a decision for future parliaments and future generations. It would be a decision which could only be taken once, and a decision which should not be approached in this atmosphere, but only after the greatest possible consideration. I believe both Parliament and sterling have served our country and the rest of the world very well. I believe we are more stable and more influential with it, I believe it is an expression of sovereignty. This Government believe in the pound sterling.政府并不打算废除英镑。